Progesterone...confusing??? Help!

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Re: Progesterone...confusing??? Help!

Postby Hethir » Wed Jul 29, 2009

With PCOS progesterone supplementation can help to make a big difference with PCOS. It can seem confusing when you should use it since usage is based on a menstrual cycle. In this case choosing your own cycle can help to establish a pattern. Mimicking a general cycle is best. Following the same suggested usage as someone who has a cycle, just choose your own and mark it on the calendar.

Vitex works great in conjunction with progesterone cream. Vitex is working on the the underlying imbalance (which takes some time) while the progesterone helps in the current cycles.
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Re: Progesterone...confusing??? Help!

Postby DeborahA » Thu Nov 19, 2009

I have a question as well. I had blood tests done a few months ago and the Doctor said my progesterone was low. He suggested to take progesterone after ovulation until your period or if you conceive for the first trimester.

Another Doctor told me that he wouldn't put me on Progesterone until we confirmed pregnancy. He said it is possible to conceive if you have low progesterone, is that true?

For 1 cycle I took Progesterone suppositories after ovulation, I did not conceive but I found it delayed my period a week. Will that happen with the Progesterone Cream?

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Re: Progesterone...confusing??? Help!

Postby Hethir » Thu Nov 19, 2009

Generally with progesterone cream the cycle will stay the same if you take it after you ovulate and stop the day before you usually get your period. It can be helpful to know these things. Natural progesterone cream and progesterone suppositories are two very different products.

Sometimes with progesterone cream use the cycle will shift. This happens a lot when the time between ovulation and menstruation is shorter than it should be.
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Re: Progesterone...confusing??? Help!

Postby DeborahA » Thu Nov 19, 2009

Thank you.

So then is it possible to conceive if your progesterone is low and once you confirm pregnancy start taking the progesterone cream?

I have PCOS and I notice that Progesterone Cream is part of the kit. Should I just take it and assume mine is low, or can I wait until I've conceived? I will be taking Vitex, DIM, Royal Jelly and MACA and following the PCOS Diet to try and conceive. Should they help raise my progesterone levels?
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Re: Progesterone...confusing??? Help!

Postby Randy » Thu Nov 19, 2009

Hi Hethir

I have endometriosis and bought the fertilty Cleanse kit and Endowise kit(Dim,Zymessence& progestrone cream,Womens Best Friend).I completed the fertility cleanse last month and since am TTC , i sought your advice in this regard as to what to do and asyou suggested i do not TTC on the month am on the cleanse and start fertility enzyme therapy for the next 2 months post cleanse.I did the same ..this is my first month of enzyme therapy(I take Zymessence 3 times a day on empty stomach, DIM twice a day,WBF thrice a day and apply emerita progestrone cream twice(dime size)).Now i am TTC as i dont want to waste time.. and as Progestrone cream was advised to be taken from days 8 to 26 of my cycle..
Reference :"Progesterone for endometriosis : If you have endometriosis, Dr. John Lee recommends using progesterone from days 8 to 26 of your cycle, to reduce the effects of estrogen on the body (estrogen stimulates endometrial growth). Take a short week off to refresh your receptor sites."

I already started that.However i noted that while charting my BBT, it shows likely ovulation around Day16(not sure though) and we did try around dat day :( but to my shock, i am reading above that Progestrone cream suppresses ovulation.. if yes, should i stop taking it from day8 and take after ovulation?? am so worried now bcos i was not told of this in the kit instructions and in your reply even though i mentioned am TTC .. pls hethir.. guide me what to do ..i am hoping so much for a baby.. :( though i have moderate endometriosis, i still get my monthly cycles regularly and think dont have problem ovulating.. help me hethir..
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Re: Progesterone...confusing??? Help!

Postby Dalene » Mon Nov 23, 2009

Hi Randy,

You would only want to take the Progesterone Cream starting on day 8 if you are wanting to work toward reducing the effects of endometriosis. This would be for someone who would like to get the pain, inflammation and endometrial growth under control before trying to conceive. In your case you only have mild endometriosis and you are ttc, because of that and the fact you chart your cycle I suggest you use the cream after ovulation up to your period. Progesterone Cream can suppress ovulation if it is taken before ovulation. Thanks for your question. Sorry for the confusion!

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I answered this on our Homepage, but am posting my answer here as well because I think this is an important question. In the future though, please only ask your question in one place on the site, they all end up back to Hethir and I :)
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Re: Progesterone...confusing??? Help!

Postby Randy » Tue Nov 24, 2009

Hi Dalene

Thanks for your reply.I actually posted this here first but as there was no immediate response had to ask you again in homepage as i was little anxious. :( but thanks for clearing it out Dalene.I will use the cream from next cycle as you suggested and see how it works.

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Re: Progesterone...confusing??? Help!

Postby Dalene » Wed Nov 25, 2009

Hi Randy,

Immediate responses rarely happen. Hethir and I are not on here all day long. We have set times we work and we answer questions in the order they are received. I hope I am not offending you when I ask to only post in one place ;) . I understand being anxious about this because it is important that you ovulate! I really liked your question and think it was an important one! Progesterone can be used in different ways depending on what your fertility challenges may be and it can be confusing. Your question will greatly help women with Endometriosis who are interested in using Progesterone cream.

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Re: Progesterone...confusing??? Help!

Postby Dalene » Wed Nov 25, 2009

Hi DeborahA,

It is possible to conceive with low progesterone, but may be more difficult. It may be hard to maintain a pregnancy if you have low progesterone.

Vitex will help boost Progesterone production. Vitex has been found to help normalize ovulation, improve a short luteal phase and reduce Polycystic Ovary Syndrome (PCOS), all known fertility inhibitors. In one study, vitex helped normalize progesterone levels and increased the luteal phase from 5.4 days to 11.4 days.

I think going over our Progesterone Fertility Guide would be beneficial to you. There is a quick check list to help you determine if you may be Progesterone defficient.

Natural progesterone is safe to use during pregnancy and may likely prevent many first trimester spontaneous abortions but should be used with caution in nursing as it may stop lactation. In the first trimester of pregnancy progesterone production is the sole responsibility of the ovaries, often fail to produce sufficient levels to maintain the pregnancy. By the second trimester, the placenta itself is responsible for producing progesterone, and it hikes the level of this hormone to 486% higher than the non-pregnant norm.

Synthetic progesterone drugs, not being natural progesterone, have side effects that if used to maintain the pregnancy may do damage to the baby.

If you are taking progesterone and get pregnant, you must continue taking progesterone until at least the 16th week. I personally would not stop if I had seriously low levels to begin with. But it is best to work with your health care practitioner if this is the case. They will continuously monitor your levels to make sure they are healthy for pregnancy.

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Re: Progesterone...confusing??? Help!

Postby DeborahA » Wed Nov 25, 2009

Hi Dalene,

Thank you so much for your help and advice. It really means a lot.

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